<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Son Of Able Danger</title>
	<atom:link href="http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/984/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/984</link>
	<description>High Flying Political Debate</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 00:33:41 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: The Sundries Shack</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/984/comment-page-1#comment-3115</link>
		<dc:creator>The Sundries Shack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=984#comment-3115</guid>
		<description>[...] Here are a bunch from the December 2 roundup: Council links Guns, Germs, and Moonbats - Right Wing Nut House Discussing Withdrawal From Iraq - The Glittering Eye The Irony of the Day - The Education Wonks Son Of Able Danger - The Strata-Sphere [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Here are a bunch from the December 2 roundup: Council links Guns, Germs, and Moonbats &#8211; Right Wing Nut House Discussing Withdrawal From Iraq &#8211; The Glittering Eye The Irony of the Day &#8211; The Education Wonks Son Of Able Danger &#8211; The Strata-Sphere [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: theodore</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/984/comment-page-1#comment-2532</link>
		<dc:creator>theodore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 00:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=984#comment-2532</guid>
		<description>I think the problem with the Atta case is the CIA.  No one in power can say anything regarding intelligence that does not have the blessing of the CIA.  I think the entire reason for creating theDNI office was to end the CIAs veto power over the intel community.  If the CIA rules that a case is inconclusive, it is political suicide to quote that intelligence even if all of the other agencies are on board.  The minute you do that there will be a frontpage NYT story about you lying and manipulating intelligence, quoting unamed CIA officials.

It is all a matter of whether the issue involved serves the objectives of the small group at the CIA who are the experts on that particular issue.  So Atta meeting with Al Ani didn&#039;t serve their interests so it was deemed inconclusive.  The CIA has no problem using inconclusive evidence when it serves their need, like hiding the fact that they have no good sources in Iraq, Curveball being a good example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem with the Atta case is the CIA.  No one in power can say anything regarding intelligence that does not have the blessing of the CIA.  I think the entire reason for creating theDNI office was to end the CIAs veto power over the intel community.  If the CIA rules that a case is inconclusive, it is political suicide to quote that intelligence even if all of the other agencies are on board.  The minute you do that there will be a frontpage NYT story about you lying and manipulating intelligence, quoting unamed CIA officials.</p>
<p>It is all a matter of whether the issue involved serves the objectives of the small group at the CIA who are the experts on that particular issue.  So Atta meeting with Al Ani didn&#8217;t serve their interests so it was deemed inconclusive.  The CIA has no problem using inconclusive evidence when it serves their need, like hiding the fact that they have no good sources in Iraq, Curveball being a good example.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Snapple</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/984/comment-page-1#comment-2508</link>
		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=984#comment-2508</guid>
		<description>You are all discussing oil for food and money laundering, and I remembered this.  Is the Electric Construction Company or the ANS Holding familiar??

Does  anyone know if M. Atta  owned these companies mentioned by the Boston Globe writer? These are some names Atta used:

The Czech trade register has a Mohamed Sayed Ahmed listed as owner of a Prague-based firm called the Electric Construction Company. The register also lists a Sayed Mohammad Saeed Shah as having a stake in a trading company called ANS  Holding, which has owners in the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Pakistan, and Germany.  &quot;We are investigating this, but we cannot confirm or deny anything right now,&quot; Gross said. 

Brian Whitmore is a Prague-based correspondent for The Boston Globe.
http://www.lightmillennium.org/summer_fall_01/prague_illicit.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are all discussing oil for food and money laundering, and I remembered this.  Is the Electric Construction Company or the ANS Holding familiar??</p>
<p>Does  anyone know if M. Atta  owned these companies mentioned by the Boston Globe writer? These are some names Atta used:</p>
<p>The Czech trade register has a Mohamed Sayed Ahmed listed as owner of a Prague-based firm called the Electric Construction Company. The register also lists a Sayed Mohammad Saeed Shah as having a stake in a trading company called ANS  Holding, which has owners in the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Pakistan, and Germany.  &#8220;We are investigating this, but we cannot confirm or deny anything right now,&#8221; Gross said. </p>
<p>Brian Whitmore is a Prague-based correspondent for The Boston Globe.<br />
<a href="http://www.lightmillennium.org/summer_fall_01/prague_illicit.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.lightmillennium.org/summer_fall_01/prague_illicit.html</a></p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Snapple</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/984/comment-page-1#comment-2489</link>
		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=984#comment-2489</guid>
		<description>Pink Flamingo--

Why do you expect the media to explain Atta in Prague when even the President has never made the case?  Why not make the case, if it&#039;s so &quot;overwelming&quot;? 

If the connection between Atta and Prague is &quot;overwelming,&quot; this would seem to justify the war, right?

So, if the case for Atta in Prague is &quot;overwelming,&quot; why doesn&#039;t Bush call the networks, go into Congress, lay out the case for Atta in Prague, and get Cindy Sheehan out of his front yard? They media would report that.  It would be on the front page of the NYT.

Laurie Mylroie, in her book Bush and the Beltway, blames the CIA and State Department for not promoting the Atta in Prague story.

Let us assume that Atta WAS in Prague, that he was even observed by a BIS agent and perhaps even identified using various identies  by Able Danger as he travelled back and forth into the US.  [I once read he had some shadow company in Prague that was something to do with electronics.]

Why doesn&#039;t the President of the United States get the BIS and Pentagon to lay it out there for him and solve all his issues about the legitimacy of the war?

I think it is because the Administration does not want to explain the Iraq connection because then they would have to explain their sources and methods.  Perhaps they have reconstituted and are using this Able Danger to identify and neutralize foreign and AMERICAN terrorists IN THE US.

Did you ever think that the debunking of Atta in Prague may have its origins in the White House??  And that they have used the left to get out this disinformation?  Except for Welson, it is the far left that is pressing for disclosures about Able Danger (supposedly because it will prove that Bush was complicit in 9-11). 

I think that the Administation does not want what they know by intelligence means in court; they want to protect the sources and methods. 

So they use the intelligence to decide who to investigate for something that will not involve exposing Able Danger.

It&#039;s like Elliot Ness got the gangsters for income tax evasion. 

There are a lot of terrorists  being prosecuted for stuff that may not seem extremely serious. Their lawyers are claiming that their clients were enticed, trapped, framed, etc. The arrests of Shah and Sabir come to mind as the best examples.

I think that these people may have done other, more serious crimes, that the government does not make the case for, because it would expose Able Danger or similar programs.
 
Perhaps the bad guys are going away, but not for their more spectacular crimes.

 This is just my own opinion. I don&#039;t work for the government or know anything about these kind of programs.  I am only speculating.
All of this could be totally wrong. It&#039;s just my theory.

But I think W. is onto the bad guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pink Flamingo&#8211;</p>
<p>Why do you expect the media to explain Atta in Prague when even the President has never made the case?  Why not make the case, if it&#8217;s so &#8220;overwelming&#8221;? </p>
<p>If the connection between Atta and Prague is &#8220;overwelming,&#8221; this would seem to justify the war, right?</p>
<p>So, if the case for Atta in Prague is &#8220;overwelming,&#8221; why doesn&#8217;t Bush call the networks, go into Congress, lay out the case for Atta in Prague, and get Cindy Sheehan out of his front yard? They media would report that.  It would be on the front page of the NYT.</p>
<p>Laurie Mylroie, in her book Bush and the Beltway, blames the CIA and State Department for not promoting the Atta in Prague story.</p>
<p>Let us assume that Atta WAS in Prague, that he was even observed by a BIS agent and perhaps even identified using various identies  by Able Danger as he travelled back and forth into the US.  [I once read he had some shadow company in Prague that was something to do with electronics.]</p>
<p>Why doesn&#8217;t the President of the United States get the BIS and Pentagon to lay it out there for him and solve all his issues about the legitimacy of the war?</p>
<p>I think it is because the Administration does not want to explain the Iraq connection because then they would have to explain their sources and methods.  Perhaps they have reconstituted and are using this Able Danger to identify and neutralize foreign and AMERICAN terrorists IN THE US.</p>
<p>Did you ever think that the debunking of Atta in Prague may have its origins in the White House??  And that they have used the left to get out this disinformation?  Except for Welson, it is the far left that is pressing for disclosures about Able Danger (supposedly because it will prove that Bush was complicit in 9-11). </p>
<p>I think that the Administation does not want what they know by intelligence means in court; they want to protect the sources and methods. </p>
<p>So they use the intelligence to decide who to investigate for something that will not involve exposing Able Danger.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like Elliot Ness got the gangsters for income tax evasion. </p>
<p>There are a lot of terrorists  being prosecuted for stuff that may not seem extremely serious. Their lawyers are claiming that their clients were enticed, trapped, framed, etc. The arrests of Shah and Sabir come to mind as the best examples.</p>
<p>I think that these people may have done other, more serious crimes, that the government does not make the case for, because it would expose Able Danger or similar programs.</p>
<p>Perhaps the bad guys are going away, but not for their more spectacular crimes.</p>
<p> This is just my own opinion. I don&#8217;t work for the government or know anything about these kind of programs.  I am only speculating.<br />
All of this could be totally wrong. It&#8217;s just my theory.</p>
<p>But I think W. is onto the bad guys.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Small Town Veteran</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/984/comment-page-1#comment-2484</link>
		<dc:creator>Small Town Veteran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=984#comment-2484</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;&quot;Sunday Night&quot; Quick Hits&lt;/strong&gt;

Some things I intended to excerpt in individual posts if I hadn&#039;t run out of time:Uncle Jimbo: Beyond Neocon- Rise of the Rational Hawk Michelle Malkin: Protest Photo Of The Day Dafydd ab Hugh: Give Me That Old Time Religion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>&#8220;Sunday Night&#8221; Quick Hits</strong></p>
<p>Some things I intended to excerpt in individual posts if I hadn&#8217;t run out of time:Uncle Jimbo: Beyond Neocon- Rise of the Rational Hawk Michelle Malkin: Protest Photo Of The Day Dafydd ab Hugh: Give Me That Old Time Religion</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: The Pink Flamingo Bar Grill</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/984/comment-page-1#comment-2476</link>
		<dc:creator>The Pink Flamingo Bar Grill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Nov 2005 06:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=984#comment-2476</guid>
		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Able Danger, Atta, Prague, Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Sa&lt;/strong&gt;

I say don&#039;t hold your breath, the evidence has been overwhelming for quite sometime and they have done an outstanding job of ignoring it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Able Danger, Atta, Prague, Ahmed Khalil Ibrahim Sa</strong></p>
<p>I say don&#8217;t hold your breath, the evidence has been overwhelming for quite sometime and they have done an outstanding job of ignoring it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Snapple</title>
		<link>http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/984/comment-page-1#comment-2453</link>
		<dc:creator>Snapple</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://strata-sphere.com/blog/?p=984#comment-2453</guid>
		<description>Send in the Marines.

Sounds like a plan to me.

I hope you will keep us informed about this.

This is what I saw on TV today.  I thought it seemed like Able Danger, too.

Thanks for writing about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Send in the Marines.</p>
<p>Sounds like a plan to me.</p>
<p>I hope you will keep us informed about this.</p>
<p>This is what I saw on TV today.  I thought it seemed like Able Danger, too.</p>
<p>Thanks for writing about this.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

