May 22 2007
Guest Worker Program Sustained
As I said, there is not enough opposition in the Senate (or the country for that matter) to derail the guest worker program for immigrant workers, as shown in the second key vote for the immigration bill:
A comprehensive immigration bill survived a significant test on Tuesday as the Senate voted to keep a provision that would let hundreds of thousands of temporary foreign workers enter the country each year.
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The vote on Tuesday was on a proposal by Senator Byron L. Dorgan, Democrat of North Dakota, to eliminate the temporary worker program. His amendment failed, 64-31.
64-31, Filibuster-proof and proposed by a conservative Democrat. This bill is actually picking up steam in my opinion.
AJ, I have a minor quibble.
I wouldn’t call Byron Dorgan a conservative democrat. His liberal rating is 100% from the ADA.
Yeah, he’s a liberal & union guy, that’s why he was against the guest worker program. Vast majority of voters, and that includes the so-called “hard-liners” or “hard-right”, are fine with a guest worker program. That’s not the issue, never was.
I don’t think that is enough votes to get it past the house. There are two houses of Congress. It has to pass both.
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Ah, the truth comes out. Sen Bob Menendez D New Jersey, wants all the illegals that are already here to be able to bring all their extended familes here also. (and of course their extended families also) ( and of course their extended familes also) in fact he doesn’t want any limit as long as they can be shown to have some kind of relationship. He’s saying this at the moment on the floor of the Senate.
Further info, he (Sen Menendez) says that if you a a US citizen and you have a brother that is not a US citizen and the US citizen has applied for his brother to come here after may 1, 2005 he will lose that right in this bill. But anyone that came in Undocumented since that time WILL have the right to have his brother come in under the bill. That would mean that the undocumented would have a right that the US citizen did not have. Now this is a Dimmycrat saying this. Of course his solution is not to limit the undocumented person’s rights, it is to open up the border even more and let ALL of them in…. I think this bill needs some fresh air.
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http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=MGZiYTRmNDk2Y2Y3MmU2MTk2YzU2N2RmZWU0NzY4MGE=
I hope these links work after posting. For anyone interested in the Non Mainstream Press View.
Todd Bensman, who completed a six-month investigation of Middle Eastern illegal aliens crossing the southern border into Mexico. He traveled to Syria, Guatemala, and Mexico to trace the human pipeline of so-called “special interest aliens.” The San Antonio News Express is running his four-part series. This is a massive, thorough rebuttal to the open-borders types who blithely dismiss the national security threat on our southern border.Read the whole series: Start here.
DHS and the White House say they’ve ended catch-and-release policies for illegal aliens. Here’s a reality check from a West Virginia law enforcement official:
James Edwards writes about the right way to do illegal immigration reform: Attrition Through Enforcement.
Heritage Foundation scholar Robert Rector estimates the bill’s pricetag at a potential $2.5 trillion with a “t:”
Giving amnesty to illegal immigrants would increase the costs outlined in this testimony. Some 50 to 60 percent of illegal immigrants lack a high school degree. Granting amnesty or conditional amnesty to illegal immigrants would, overtime, increase their use of means-tested welfare, Social Security and Medicare. Fiscal costs would go up significantly in the short term but would go up dramatically after the amnesty recipient reached retirement. Based on my current research, I estimate that if all the current adult illegal immigrants in the U.S. were granted amnesty the net retirement costs to government (benefits minus taxes) could be over $2.5 trillion.
THOMAS SOWELL: Mexico makes our immigration policy. “Myth Monopolyâ€
If the links don’t work, all can be found at Michelle Malkin and National Review web sites. I kon AJ hates both sites, and the people at them, but maybe others would like to learn things not in the Mainstream press.
Enjoy your day folks, I’m off to work.
I kon AJ hates both sites Keyboards! That should be KNOW not kon.
I kon AJ hates both sites:, Keyboards! That should be KNOW not kon.
I just wish they could com eup with a compromise that both sides could and would tolerate. I know we need this debate, but I just hate the acrimony.
This legislation endorses and encourages the anarchy on our borders as people are allowed to pick and choose which laws they want to obey and which ones they don’t In addition to millions of illegal foreigners invading our country in defiance of our laws, we have towns and cities publicly announcing that they will not obey federal laws with which they disagree. If this is not anarchy, what is? It’s no wonder we have so many illegal aliens picking a choosing the laws they want to obey once they get here and find that nobody cares if they are here legally or illegally. They have become so brazen that they are staging mass demonstratins and making demands that will cost US taxpayers billions of dollars, and Congress’ answer is to encourage , aid and abet them. How long is it going to be until US citizens claim the same rights to select the laws they wish to obey that is being given to these illegal aliens? Didn’t the North invade the South to force Southerners to obey laws passed by Congress? Are foreigners more deserving of special rights than US citizens? It’s time to enforce the laws we already have on the books instead of passing more that laws that will only encourage more lawlessness.
Terrye,
I just wish they could com eup with a compromise
why does it have to be a compromise. By definition a compromise means both sides get some of what they want and some of what they don’t want. Why not just have a bill where both sides get what they want and none of what they don’t want.
First, no bill that is passed is gonna be enforced, so it’s a waste of time. If the present bill passes, the only part that will get done is the Amnesty and path to citizenship and head of the line for illegals. Nothing about ‘enforcing or securing’ the borders will get done.
Even the triggers are a non starter, it’ll never be enforced. the fence will never be built.
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Why not pass a bill that Americans want, and can work? Which as most of us know, and new polls confirm (just like the Nov-06 elections), is to secure the border and other measures to clamp down on illegal entry. The rest of it — gust worker program, path to citizenship — is too complicated and unworkable for our ill-equipped, bloated bureaucracies as they exist now.
Give us taxpayers and voters what we want and what the country needs — control over who enters our country.
I was just watching on Fox news tonight that the latest Rassmussen polls showed that only 28% of Americans support this bill while 47% of republicans and, (get this part), 51% of democrats oppose it. Some 24% are undecided. If this congress passes a bill with this level of opposition, they are clearly pissing on the American people and they will pay! So much for all of this crap about how this country wants this bill. It is absolutely true that the American public wants something to be done about the immigration problem, but total capitulation wasn’t the answer they were looking for! How can you expect the average worker to agree to an illegal alien, getting automatic legal status, getting in-state tuition benefits, getting paid a minimum of union scale wages among other things that THEY CANNOT GET THEMSELVES! This is the biggest act of treason that this congress has ever concocted. The more sunlight that shines on this bill, the more we find little goodies in it that place Mexicans far above American citizens, such as the back tax forgiveness. These sons of bitches ought to slapped that came up with this cowardly America hating crap. This bill may spark the highest turnout of incumbents in many years in the senate and the house.
ANN COULTER says:
It will be harder to say it than Ann C. did