Dec 27 2006

Agreeing With An Anti-War Liberal On Litvinenko

It has become a very strange time indeed when I find myself in complete agreement with an anti-war liberal. In this case it is on the Litvinenko incident, and the argument laid out is an excellent synopsis of my posts on this matter. My impression of liberals has been inching upward recently, as I see clear examples of independent thinking and not accepting the PR that issues out of the mainstream media. This is a good sign to me that everyone is breaking their mental shackles that tie them to the error prone media giants.

52 responses so far

52 Responses to “Agreeing With An Anti-War Liberal On Litvinenko”

  1. Ken says:


    Clarice is showing her Israelophilia wherein criticism of their
    government means you are preparing Zyklon B. Unfortunately for
    her ,40-50% of the Israeli public want to dismantle the settlements
    and give the West Bank back to Palestine, even Olmert’s own daughter. In Clarice’s world, they are “self-hating Jews.”

    Your lesson in America, though is, keep 50 miles
    away from anyone critical of Israel or you will be as censored
    as the hypocritical approvers of Jewish ethnic chauvinism
    can manage.

  2. Ken says:

    Unfortunately for you, Raimondo has been right on the Israeli-sponsored Iraq War all the way. Predicting an unwinnable
    debacle before, and predicting an absence of WMDs. I guess it
    takes “radicals” to be right on vital issues, when the mainstream
    is out of touch with reality, or hoplessly corrupt.

  3. erp says:

    There is no comparison in methodology, but the intent to convert others who do not wish to be converted is the same. We need to see ourselves clearly before we condemn others.

    I’m not suggesting moral equivalency which I deplore and detest.

  4. momdear1 says:

    All this bickering is giving me a headache. The way I see it….I know I dont’ have access to, nor do I want to be bothered with knowing, all the information that the President has. Therefore, when I vote for a candidate to lead the country I try to select someone whom I think can be trusted to make the best decisions for the good of the entire country based on the information which he , and he alone, has. Once elected, our president deserves respect, support and loyalty from all Americans unless , and until, he does something to disgrace the office (ala Bill Clinton) or shows he is incompetent (ala Jimmy Carter). We have a method of getting rid of ineffective and embarrassing leaders. It’s call elections.

    I want a strong President who will stand up for our country’s best interests against the world’ s Tyrants and Bullies. Bulllies will push you as far as you are willing to back up. And when you get rid of one, another will step up to take his place. Those are facts of life. To survive, we must have a strong leader who is willing to stand up against the world’s bullies and Tyrants. No one can do an effective job when he has back biting political opponents, malcontents, and out and out traitors yapping at his heels and interfering with every action and decision he makes.

    We loved Ronald Reagan because we knew he was a true blue loyal American and that every decision he made was made with the country’s best interests his first priority. Leaders like Reagan are few and far between. Too many are more interested in their legacy, making money, promoting specific causes and/or agendas, etc.

    I am turned off by candidates who promise something for everyone, or cater to selected groups and agendas. Such pe0ple cannot lead. All they do is cause resentment, mistrust and hostility between segments of society. Our country is presently divided into hostile camps, constantly harangued by talking heads, each saying the same thing, over and over, repeating “talking points” based on half truths and some outright lies, calculated to keep people angry and in a fighting mood, ready to fight another civil war. In psychology there is a psychopatic type personality which can only lead when there is someone or something to rally people against. I suspect our country is being manipulated by just such psychotic people: People without access to all the facts, who claim to know what is best based on how they feel, the cause they support, or who they hate.

    If we want to survive as a nation, this cut throat type politics of personal destruction must end, and we must learn to work together to support the elected leader in whatever feeble effort he is willing to make to protect us from our enemies who are lined up to take us out, if for no other reason, than that we are number one.

  5. Ken says:

    new poll!

    everybody’s majority wants ALL US troops out of Iraq-yesterday!
    (even Americans, where 66% agree with the esteemed French)

  6. AJStrata says:


    We are not leaving Iraq until 2008 – at the earliest.

    BTW, most people want to live disease free their entire life as well. Most people want to be rich. Most people want to be young and sexy. What they want and what they must live with are totally different.

    You can find a poll for any uninformed fool to believe – as you so aptly just demonstrated. Fantasies are best left to the uninformed.

  7. Ken says:

    More elitist condescension from a diletantte par excellence.

    Very undemocratic too for one who claims to wish to bring democracy to Iraq.

  8. Ken says:

    Most importantly, the only difference between 2007 and 2008?
    The number of US troops killed and maimed.
    “Victory?” Strata,dilletante…”what you want and what you must live with” are …you got it…totally different.

  9. Ken says:

    some of the opinions of US troops expressed here qualify them, of course, as “fools” to a chickenhawk far from the sniper’s glare and the RPG.

  10. Barbara says:


    I agree wholeheartedly.

  11. Barbara says:


    More elitist condescension from a diletantte par excellence

    AJ is a diletante? In what way? Do you even know what the word means? An unserious dabbler doing something only for amusement. The only amusing thing about this site is you, dear.

    Most importantly, the only difference between 2007 and 2008?
    The number of US troops killed and maimed.
    “Victory?” Strata,dilletante…”what you want and what you must live with” are …you got it…totally different.

    As if you care.

  12. Ken says:

    As if I care about what? I use as much political influence as I have to
    pressure for bringing the troops home and saving their lives, and have done so since 2003. Care about Strata? I have given up on
    enlightening the true believers in the war -let the bitter end deprogram them.