Jan 29 2009

Is President Obama Out Of His Mind? Or Is It An Internet Hoax (See Update)?

Published by at 4:55 pm under All General Discussions

It seems President Obama is probably as sane as his home state Governor – Rod Blagojevich. It has been a tradition in this country for its officers and military to take an oath to protect the constitution, the instrument by which We The People execute our rights and power.

It seems President Obama wants to do away with that oath and now replace it with an oath to protect his highness, The Messiah Obama:

A spokesman for General James Cartwright, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, states that the Obama Administration wants to have soldiers and officers pledge a loyalty oath directly to the office of the President, and no longer to the Constitution.

“The oath to the Constitution is as old as the document itself.” the spokesman said, “At no time in American history, not even in the Civil War, did the oath change or the subject of the oath differ. It has alwaysbeen to the Constitution.”

The back-and-forth between the White House and the Defense Department was expected as President George W. Bush left office. President Obama has already signed orders to close Guantanamo and to pull combat troops from Iraq. But, this, say many at the Defense Department, goes to far.

“Technically, we can’t talk about it before it becomes official policy.” the spokesman continued. “However, the Defense Department, including the Secretary, will not take this laying down. Expect a fight from the bureaucracy and the brass.”

Sources at the White House had a different point of view. In a circular distributed by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, the rationale for the change was made more clear.

“The President feels that the military has been too indoctrinated by the old harbingers of hate: nationalism, racism, and classism. By removing an oath to the American society, the soldiers are less likely to commit atrocities like those at Abu Ghraib.”

I believe this is how Adolph Hitler started, when he became the embodiment of Germany and his views were the law – above anyone else’s. This is scary stuff.

Update: I had my doubts when this first came up in my comments section, and I still think it may be a hoax. For what it is worth here is the reactions from the left – where some claim this started as satire and then became fodder for the gullible. I would really like to find out and I hope it is false. It wouldn’t bother me in the least to have been stung by an internet rumor, compared to the alternative.

If this is a hoax, the liars should be exposed so their reputations can be properly sullied.

Update: Smooth move by the blogger.  The last tag on the post is ‘satire’. Ah, cheap hits!

24 responses so far

24 Responses to “Is President Obama Out Of His Mind? Or Is It An Internet Hoax (See Update)?”

  1. kathie says:

    Surely this can’t be true. Obama is not this stupid. He has only been in office a week and 2 days. He would have the country up in arms. This story is fake I’m sure.

  2. KauaiBoy says:

    Please see my earlier posts. The Constitution is greater than any man, office or institution in this country and more important than air. The oath of the military to uphold the Constitution is a check and balance on the office of the demigod (ummm POTUS) even more important than what can be expected from either the corrupt Congress or Judiciary run amok.

    Where is that Montana or Michigan militia when we need them!!!!

    Swear upon our country’s altar
    Never to submit or to falter,
    To arms ! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!
    Till the spoilers are defeated,
    Till the Lord’s work is completed!
    To arms ! To arms! To arms, in Dixie!

    And this from a certified Yankee.

  3. NewEnglandDevil says:

    Check the tags on the original post:
    Labels: Barack Obama, Constitution, Defense Department, Defense Secretary, military, oath, politics, President Obama, Robert Gates, satire

  4. AJStrata says:

    NED – yep, saw that and posted. Takes skill to do that kind of BS’ing.

  5. Frogg says:

    Cheap move by he blogger. Who looks at tag lines? Geeeez. I love satires. But, please make them obvious. Thanks for pointing it out here.

  6. CatoRenasci says:

    Let’s look at the facts.

    The current oath for enlisted personnel is:

    “I, XXXXXXXXXX, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God.” 10 USC 502

    The current oath for officers of the uniformed services is:

    “I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God.” 5 USC 3331

    Note the significant difference that officers do not swear to obey the orders of the president, but enlisted members do. Officers actually have a duty under their oath to disobey orders that are unconstitutional. Changing the oath of office would require a change in the United States Code, which would require Congressional action and, I guarantee, would create serious concerns.

  7. MerlinOS2 says:

    AJ

    That very same blogger has done three posts in a similar manner in the the last couple of days and they got swept up by larger blogs in the process.

    They did the fact checks and noted the crud in their comment threads and if you look a couple went back and talked about it in the starting blog threads if they haven’t been purged out.

    The clown is a loose cannon.

  8. MerlinOS2 says:

    See these threads for the same false posts with just the satire tags for cover

    Guns to Be Banned for Elderly

    Obama to Launch “America Scouts”

  9. MerlinOS2 says:

    His excuse in the thread comments of one thread

    Sometimes you need to be shocked to realize what’s going on. To think it’s real is to realize what you could lose.

    Sorry but that is not worth the potential of something going viral in the blogs based on his false information and potentially causing a major credibility issue that is not needed.

  10. crosspatch says:

    There is something very similar to this going on in elementary schools.

  11. Cobalt Shiva says:

    What’s so bloody dangerous about this idea is that it’s utterly believable that he’d seek to do it. The Obamanoid cult would think it a wonderful idea.

  12. conman says:

    “I love satires. But, please make them obvious. ”

    Don’t worry Frogg and the rest of the Kool-aid gang on this blog, it was very obvious that it was a B.S. story to 99.9% of the people who first saw it. We don’t need a tag line to help us figure it out – common sense works pretty well in most instances.

    Seriously, I am amazed at how gullible you people are? Literally, people with absolutely no credibility can say ANYTHING on the internet and you all will presume it is true if it is something you want to believe is true. Did you people honestly think that this story could possible be true? I mean, really?

    Thanks for the laughs.

  13. The Macker says:

    Con,
    “Literally, people with absolutely no credibility can say ANYTHING on the internet and you all will presume it is true if it is something you want to believe is true.”

    This pretty well describes the MSM and its zombie subscribers.

  14. JDavis says:

    I guess we need to be super careful. It’s obvious this is a game being played. Post some piece of tripe, let others pick up on it then point the finger at how stupid or gullible so and so is, and hold the site or posters up for ridicule.

  15. AJStrata says:

    Sadly Conman,

    After Obama has made plans to talk to terrorists as equals, it is not easy to spot is stupidity from lies about his stupidity.

    That is why this worked. No one would have believed it of Bush – unless your dumb enough to believe he let 9-11 happened!

    Conman, you are one to talk – you have fallen for every BS rumor about Bush and never once were adult enough to admit it.

    Don’t come lecturing us on being gullible – you’ve had a hook in your lip for years now.

  16. Redteam says:

    conguy,
    Seriously, I am amazed at how gullible you people are? Literally, people with absolutely no credibility can say ANYTHING on the internet and you all will presume it is true if it is something you want to believe is true.

    yeah, ha ha, we’d probably even believe someone with absolutely no credibility would even appoint an admitted crook to be Sec of Treas. or a lobbyist to the Defense dept.

    or, even, ha ha he’d probably even have friends like Ayers (an admitted terrorist) or a preacher like , ha ha, Wright.

    Yeah, it’s hard to know what kind of stupid things we’d believe he’d do vs what stupid things he would actually do.

    we’re all laughing at how gullible WE are. yeah, a real knee slapper he is.

    What flavor did you say your kool-aid is?

  17. dave m says:

    Funny ha-ha or Funny peculiar?
    Well, they got you.
    But the interesting thing is that on Try 1, Justice Roberts flubbed the oath,
    (you kind of think he’d know it) and that caused “Obama” to also flub the oath.
    Now why did that happen?
    So “Obama” and his advisers think they should retake the oath which
    they do the next night, only without the Bible.
    What’s the subtext here?
    Whilst the Supreme Court is frantically blocking every lawsuit asking
    merely for “Obama” to prove his bonafides and divulge his vault birth certificate,
    Justice Roberts is laying in some insurance for the day when not only
    “Obama” is arrested as an impostor but the entire SCOTUS and
    every member of Congress is arrested for knowingly promoting a usurper
    to the office of president.
    Justice Roberts will say “I never swore in Obama”.
    and that little bit of this incredible tale will be true.
    He never swore in Obama – and Obama is not the president.
    By the way, “Obama” just signed his first law, something about
    equal pay for women. That law does not exist and any prosecution
    under that law can lead to a defense of no law was broken.
    This will get worse and worse.
    Watch and learn.

  18. BarbaraS says:

    How about the $4 odd billion for community service? What is that but to pay for his own private army that he says will be as well funded as the milirary and loyal only to him. No, it is not outside the realm of possibility that he would require the military to swear loyaly to the office of the president but it would be if he succeeded in getting it.

    Somehow, I get the idea this was a feeler to see what the climate would be. Don’t think this guy is not arrogant enough to try something like this.

  19. Redteam says:

    Obama did re-do the oath so all is official and legal.

    the flubbing of the oath was not a big deal, but what really happened was, Roberts started out to say the whole first line
    I, barack obama promise to faithfully execute…….when obama interrupted right after Roberts said ‘obama’ saying “I, barack obama’ this unexpected and early repetition by obama caused Roberts to lose his place and re-state what he had already said. That’s the sequence of events. It was no big deal, just a couple nervous people.