Jul 07 2009
Obamanomics Bringing Down The House (White House, That Is)
I noted below (and many times in the past few months) how the democrats have set the seeds of their own demise in 2010 and 2012. I am now very confident this is now unavoidable, as I note in the post regarding Palin’s future.
It’s the economy stupid. In that post I note how the worsening unemployment will turn the people against the Dems again (and this time probably for more than a decade or two). As if to underscore this prediction a shocking poll is out today from Ohio – another state Obama would probably now lose to Palin (along with CA, MI and OR):
President Obama’s job approval in Ohio has dropped significantly in the last two months, dipping under the 50% mark for the first time, according to a new poll by Quinnipiac University. In the last Quinnipiac poll in Ohio taken in early May, Obama enjoyed a healthy 62% job approval rating, with only 31% disapproving. Today, Obama’s job approval stands at 49%, with 44% disapproving – a twenty-five point net drop in just eight weeks.
Not surprsingly, Obama has seen a corresponding drop among voters’ approval of his handling of the economy: two months ago he had a net +21 approval (57/36), today it is -2 (46/48).
Yeah, its called ‘jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs’ – that would be 5 words there Nancy.
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An economic up turn is based on confidence to spend.
Have you noticed how the full court press on the left started this weekend on the theme – “WE NEED A SECOND STIMULUS”
WE NEVER HAD A FIRST ONE YOU IDIOTS!!!!
How about just repealing all the goodie giveaways in the first so-called stimulus and actually applying them to creating jobs? WOW, what a concept!!!
And there will be no “second stimulus” bill because the idea is politically poisonous. No way will Congress vote for jacking up the deficit by ANOTHER trillion, in a baldfaced admission that they blew it the first time.
[...] But over the years many on the left have lived and died by them. What do they say to this? (h/t The Strata Sphere) President Obama’s job approval in Ohio has dropped significantly in the last two months, dipping [...]
After listening an interview of Liz Trotter on Fox and her execrable comments [along with many others] on my Governor… [Sarah].. I have reconsidered… Although I still opine that quitting was very bad… Just move over so I can get back on board and let’s move forward…
… and this begets talk of another of those marvelous “stimulus” packages. Let’s now even consider another “stimulus” until they actually manage to spent the first “stimulus”.
If Obama and the Democrats in Congress who put this last one together had been a bit more bipartisan, it would have been more stimulating. Of course, we will never know if that money taken out for Nancy’s condoms would have had a stimulating effect.
I have argued for a long time, and AJ’s graphs confirm it, that this second stimulus program was not a stimulus, but rather mostly a political payoff. This $800 billion monstrosity was the second stimulus. The first was a tax rebate under Bush. the first one worked for a quarter or so.
Obama is now claiming he underestimated the problems with the economy when he took office. That may be true, but it is only because he didn’t pay attention. Certainly Geithner at the NY fed had a pretty good idea.
No, Obama’s problem is the same problem he has continuously had as a politician. He does not want to be responsible for his actions. So, outsourced the writing of the stimulus bill to Pelosi and now he is paying the price for a very bad bill.
Rick
Obama must be beside himself. Here he is on a summit to Moscow and a funeral for a drug addled pervert is getting all the press!
Is it me but is BO constantly on TV everyday? I for one wish he would govern and get this economy moving along and stop worrying about his exposure. Personally, I think he is at risk of overexposure as people see the economy is getting worse and all he does is smile and speak pretty words written out for him in advance and placed on a teleprompter. Some may already see him as an empty suit as his approval index has slipped to -3. See here:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
And this would have some relevance in terms of the 2010 and 2012 elections, if it wasn’t for the inconvenient fact that the public has much, MUCH lower opinions of Republicans than Democrats, including Obama.
So, exactly how is Obama in position to lose the White House in 2012? A monstrously popular Green Party nominee?
Oh look, guy fawkes shows his nasty little head on an economics post!!!
C’mon Guy, Tell us what a GREAT JOB Obama is doing!!!
Your entire idiot point is that the Economy doesn’t matter, Jobs don’t matter, people don’t matter – only POWER matters.
Spoken like the vicious, morally crippled neo-Fascist that you are.
and as to how Obama might lose in 2012 – here’s the latest poll out today.
“The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Tuesday shows that 33% of the nation’s voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-six percent (36%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of –3. Those figures reflect the highest level of strong disapproval measured to date and the lowest level recorded for the overall Approval Index …
Overall, 52% of voters say they at least somewhat approve of the President’s performance so far. That, too, is a new low for the President. Forty-seen percent (47%) now disapprove.”
And we aren’t even close to the depths of this depression yet.
By 2012, Obama probably won’t even run for re-election, he’ll be so hated.
“By 2012, Obama probably won’t even run for re-election, he’ll be so hated.”
LOLZ. Wow – every time I become convinced that I’ve seen the dumbest thing anyone is ever going to write on this blog, one of you tops it. Congrats, WWS – you win Dumbass of the Day!
“if it wasn’t for the inconvenient fact that the public has much, MUCH lower opinions of Republicans than Democrats, including Obama.”
Guy, as usual, you are blabbering about things you know nothing about. The GOP currently leads the Democrats generic congressional ballot polls. There is not a single poll anywhere that supports your fantasy that the public has “MUCH lower opinions of Republicans than Democrats”. In fact, Pelosi’s popularity rating is below that of George W. Bush before he left office.
Care to back up your foolish drivel with some recent numbers?
Here are some hard recent numbers:
So I see no validation of the notion that Democrats are “MUCH more” favored over Republicans for anything.
The new Rasmussen poll shows this is not just happening in Ohio. The number of people who strongly disapprove is outpacing the number of people who strongly approve of Obama’s job performance. He is at -3 on that score. Over all his numbers are down to 52%. That is not bad of course, but compared to where he was a couple of months ago it looks like a free fall.
Guy:
Keep whistling past that graveyard.
In recent polls Republicans are doing better than Democrats in several areas, the economy among them. Even polls like Gallup are showing a trend toward more conservatism, not less.
cross,
You should know better then to confuse a liberal with facts.
OH NO, GUY’S HERO IS GOING DOWN THE TUBS. Is Guy a tiny, weeny bit scared? Defensive? Worried?
I believe “crumbling” would be a more accurate description of Democrat popularity in the US.
I hope Congress will pass the second stimulus. Why? It will force many Americans (other than Guy Fawkes) to see the truth about our Democratic Party.
Harry Reid said today that there will be no second stimulus and even discussing it when 90% of the first stimulus remains unspent is silly.
As an Ohioan, this post makes me a little more optimistic about my state, after so many of my friends fell for Obama’s sweet talk in November. It looks like our Democrat Governor Strickland is losing some support as well- his idea of cutting state funding for libraries is not popular.
A Gallup Poll found that:
“PRINCETON, NJ — Despite the results of the 2008 presidential election, Americans, by a 2-to-1 margin, say their political views in recent years have become more conservative rather than more liberal, 39% to 18%, with 42% saying they have not changed.
From MacMind:
“The real point is why Americans are returning to their conservative roots. The answer is because they’ve seen the contrast between what true conservatism is when compared to the in-your-face liberalism we see today.”
Basically, conservatives lost because they had deserted their conservative principles. They’re now headed back that direction. Sarah Palin will be at the front.
If “conservative principles” means shoving conservative social values down the throats of traditionally liberal communities, I would say “count me out”. Personally, I consider myself more conservative than most BUT I do not believe in enforcing my values on my neighbor. That is the major problem I have with the liberals and the conservatives … they attempt to use government as a vehicle to promote a social agenda. Let society adopt its own agenda and let government take its nose elsewhere.
A conservative community should be left alone as should a liberal community.
I think I agree with you there, Crosspatch. I have no interest at all in shoving my preferences down someone else’s throat. They can damn well do as they please, as long as THEY don’t try to shove THEIR preferences down MY throat! But they always do – just look at the things contained in that crap and trade abortion that’s looming.
And that’s what government in this country has come to – a game to see who can get control, just so they can shove their group’s preferences down everybody else’s throats. And those who try to stay out of that game get abused by everybody.
Well said Crosspatch. Government has no business shoving anyone’s “values” into any community, whichever way it leans. That is the most important “conservative principle”- limited government interference into others’ affairs. And, in this, lies the true reason Conservatives lost- they spent years shoving social values and norms down peoples’ throats instead of letting people live their own lives.
[...] But over the years many on the left have lived and died by them. What do they say to this? (h/t The Strata Sphere) President Obama’s job approval in Ohio has dropped significantly in the last two months, dipping [...]
“That is the most important “conservative principle”- limited government interference into others’ affairs. ”
Uhm, that is “classical” liberalism or, more recently, libertarianism. The problem is that the lunatics have taken over the libertarian “brand”.
What I fear is things like “intelligent design” creeping into the schools and other “Christian” doctrine being imposed on people. I don’t want to see the abortion or gay rights issues discussed at the national level at all. Those are issues for states or even lower levels of government to decide based on the community values of those locations. If people want government health care, a state is completely within their constitutional rights to provide it if that is what the voters of that state want. Same with such things as unemployment compensation. Those are social matters that the federal government should stay out of.
So if you are against gay marriage, against abortion, and pro business, you should be able to find a place to live that reflects those values. And if you are for those things, the same thing applies.
“The problem is that the lunatics have taken over the libertarian “brand”.”
Yeah, what put me off the libertarians for good as a political party was when they nominated the man who dyed himself blue out of fear of Y2K. Sorry, that just screamed “we’re idiots and we’re proud of it!!!”
And then you have gems like Ron Paul running around defaming the brand. Ron Paul, who once again distinguished himself by being the only congressmen out of that entire rogues gallery who actually had the gall to vote against supporting the Iranian dissidents.
I don’t care that the vote was symbolic, I don’t care about all the fancy reasoning that went into explaining your position – you vote in favor of Aminadjab, Ron, and you just lost the last chance at credibility you had left.
Seriously – how deluded are you people? I know you all like to take pride in your own willful ignorance, but these aren’t complicated numbers.
“Among all Americans, the poll shows a 19-point advantage for the Democratic Party over the Republican Party when it comes to the two parties’ respective favorable images — a finding little changed from last November, when Gallup last updated the parties’ images. Fifty-three percent of Americans today have a favorable opinion of the Democratic Party, compared to just 34% who have a favorable opinion of the Republican Party.”
38% of *Republicans* have an “unfavorable” view OF THEIR OWN PARTY. The idea of the GOP taking over the White House in 2012 is laughable.
Sttatewide polls all over the country show Obama losing independents in droves:
http://fredbauerblog.blogspot.com/2009/07/independents-in-balance.html
even the pro-Obama Washington Post sees that the Good Ship Obama has struck it’s iceberg and is dead in the water; see
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/07/AR2009070702341.html
One of the nice things about the fall of Obama is that morons like guy will vanish into the woodwork and never post again.
The coming Great Fall of Obama is going to be a joy to behold.
WWS:
When was the last time you actually read the Washington Post Op-Ed page? You know, the one that regularly prints columns from Fred Hiatt, Bill Kristol, Charles Krauthammer, George Will, Jim Hoagland, Michael Gerson and Robert Kagan? The fact that you call the WashPo “pro-Obama” just proves that you have no idea what you are talking about, and can only spout meaningless GOP talking points – instead of actual facts.